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----- Original Message -----
From: Candy 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:31 PM

yes i have a comment to make to the person that thinks the father is being takin over the coals.    i got out of  3 yr abusive relationship with my ex through a pfa
 
***Was this "abuse" proven in court?***
 
there is a child involved.  this child saw me physically and mentally abused til he was 3 yrs old.
 
***Physically abused how?  Mentally abused how?  What exactly do you claim he did to abuse you?***
 
he also was mentally and sometimes physically abused.
 
***How?***
 
i did not file for the divorce.  the father did
 
***What reason did he give for filing for divorce?***
 
....i was for several yrs after scared to death of my ex s threats...that he was going to get custody of our son
 
***Maybe he is scared to death that you have custody of the child***
 
 .   i took him for child support and am only receiving not even a third of his income a week
 
***What the hell do you need 1/3 of his income a week for?  You know, and I know that you don't spend it on the child, there is no way that you do***
 
....because he told them at domestic i had management skills and did not make an attempt to work for the last 2 yrs.
 
***You probably don't have to work with all the money you are taking from your son's father for your free paycheck.***
 
     which i did work....but was unable to keep working becasue my son was hospitalized with asthma attacks twice in one yr.....and woke up at night screaming for me.  my son is now 11 yrs. old and is seeing his father every other weekend and every wednesday and again is threatening me me for custody.
 
***Your son having asthma is no reason for not to work.  You are saying 2 days out of 365 your son had asthma attacks and you can't work because of that?  Give me a break!***
 
   my son, becasue i believe of what he has seen in the past.....has councilors coming to our home and goes to a behavior school.  my ex is taking credit for all this....i mean getting him back into school again.    all hes ever done is attened the the meetings....he doesnt know of all the phone calls i have made.    my ex works at a steel mill here in pa.  and makes quite a bit of money.....around 25.00 an hr.  and i am getting a 100.00 a week for support.   
 
***Your son is probably angry because of all the nasty things that are going on between you and your ex.  My son has behavioral problems when he is with his mom, so she claims.  He is a normal 6 year old child when he is with me and I NEVER have any of the problems with him that she describes to me.  She has him going to a shrink because she thinks there is something wrong with him.  The only thing that is wrong with him is that his mother acts like a child herself and thinks nothing more of me than her free paycheck just like you do to your ex.  The sad thing about this is that the "family court system" in Pennsylvania thinks the same thing of good fathers like me and then they wonder, excuse my language, why there are so many kids that are so ****** up and have the behavioral problems that they do.  Their answer is to put them on all the wonderful psych meds, that will solve the problem for sure....do you get the picture?  If not, take a look around the world you live in these days.  My ex seems to believe that she is entitled to make all decisions, the child is entirely her "property", and most of these decisions that she makes are irresponsible and irrational and in reality no good for my son but you see, I can't seem to get the courts to do anything about this unless I have about 10-15 thousand dollars to pay lawyers and all the other "professionals" that will be appointed to tell the judge that my ex is the one with the mental problem and my son is really better of living with his dad because his dad doesn't think of his mom as a free paycheck and would never stop her from seeing the child just because he got pissed off at her...catch all that?  Maybe you and my ex could be "best buddies" because you and her think alike.  It must be a sickness.***
 
i believe that in a situation like mine......an abusive father should pay and lose everything that they have.....becasue who waaants to stay ina relationship like this.
 
***I will say this again...was this abuse proven?  Have you been to the hospital bruised and beaten?  Or is this something you are fabricating in order to gain the "upper hand" in Pennsylvania's screwed up courts.  My ex, just the other day in court, came out with some crap that I am mentally abusing her.  I guess trying to hold a conversation with her and make her see my side of the whole thing, which she doesn't see, is mental abuse.  Maybe you should have the child taken from you by some person who doesn't even know you and be forced to pay your ex 1/3 of your weekly salary.  I bet your tune would change then wouldn't it.***
 
he does nothing but threaten me with courts and wants control of our sons monies and is now trying to tell me that my son cannot miss any school.     i am getting sick and tired of this and i am now bound and determined to try and get him into supervised visits.
 
***This story is entirely one sided.  Does your ex have e-mail?  I would love to hear his side of the story.  I think you need to take a good look at what you are saying here and compare it to what is right and what is wrong.  By right and wrong, I mean what is morally and ethically right or wrong.  Our society is running short on those these days.  From what I read here you are part of the problem, not the solution***
 
thank you.....an angry mom from pa.
 
***No, thank you for letting me know that there are others that are just like my ex out there who think that children are their free meal ticket to free money from their ex...people who don't really care about anything but themselves.  You need to put yourself in your child's fathers place and then you will see why he is taking you to court and will probably try to get custody.  He probably has no choice from the level of cooperation from you to ensure his right to a good relationship with his son and not just a paycheck to you and a visitor like the state encourages so that they can make money from the whole thing.  I bet that you didn't know that for every dollar they take from him and give to you they get money from the federal government did you?  Do a little research and you might just see how it really is.***
 
Dave
a fair and good father from PA with morals and values who had his son taken from him with lies and false claims of "abuse"
 

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